How unusual are the Mr & Mrs Crumbley’s 4 involuntary manslaughter charges?

It is very unusual and to those who are saying the Prosecutor is overreacting with the 4 Counts of Involuntary Manslaughter —and shocker Jennifer Crumbley wrote a letter to Trump…

If you paid attention to the Press Conference then you’d understand how much evidence they have against the parents. A reporter asked her “if these are the most serious charges” that her office brought. The Prosecutor’s response was: yes these are the most serious charges but the investigation is still ongoing. Oh and just ICYMI on November 11, 2016 Jennifer Crumbley posted a letter to Trump her blog. See WayBack Machine Archive

Mr. Trump, I actually love that you are a bad public speaker because that showed sincerity, and humility. You changed your mind, and you said “so what”. You made the famous “grab them in the pussy” comment, did it offend me? No. I say things all the time that people take the wrong way, do I mean them, not always. Do I agree that you should of shown your tax returns? No. I don’t care what you do or maybe don’t pay in taxes, I think those are personal and if the Gov’t can lock someone up over $10,000 of unpaid taxes and you slipped on by, then that shows the corruption.

You see Mr. Trump, I need you to stop common core.My son struggles daily, and my teachers tell me they hate teaching it but the HAVE to.Their pay depends on these stupid fucking test scores. I have to pay for a Tutor, why?Because I can’t !gure out 4th grade math. I used to be good at math. I can’t afford a Tutor, in fact I sacri!ce car insurance to make sure my son gets a good education and hopefully succeeds in life.

So I’m assuming no holiday cards from the Crumbleys

Because this tweet is everything and HT to @ImmaculateLoo for alerting me to this tweet. Also damn you insomnia damn you…

Bad Boys. Bad Boys…whatcha gonna do when they come for you…

But here’s a fun-tiny-fact: on December 4, 2021 12:43AM a Fox New Digital Reporter was nearly live tweeting as law enforcement moved in on the 1111 Bellevue address:

Shortly before 1:45AM -DC local time — James and Jennifer Crumbley were taken into custody —they were discovered in the basement of 1111 Bellevue St —the fugitives car was noticed by a citizen & that’s how law enforcement zeroed in on their location.

Which was then immediately confirmed by a credentialed reporter…

US Marshals -offering a $10,000 reward (now moot)

For any information that leads to the apprehension of James and Jennifer Crumbley. There’s a lot of conflicting information about the $4,000 cash withdrawal. Additionally the Oakland County Sheriff appeared on CNN and stated “I was not notified of criminal charges until I got a phone call from the media this morning…” —and by all appearances, the Sheriff decided tonight was the right time to drive the entire Sherrif’s Department fleet of vehicles over the Prosecutor and her office. This actually strains credulity. Why?

Dear Sheriff Bouchard, there’s a lot of blame to go around…

…but having (mainly) the Sheriff and the Prosecutor snipping at each other on National News, during prime time, no less —that is not productive, at all. Nonetheless the scale of who’s correct. actually tips in favor of the Prosecution primarily because she’s steadfast on helping her community obtain justice.

Well as the Oakland County Prosecutor stated in her Press Conference, at 11:45AM a Deputy had filed an affidavit in support of criminal charges and a warrant was issued. That is the Prosecutor & her office have been in constant contact with several Sargents and Detected with the Oakland County Sheriff’s Department…

Hence why I wanted my readers to have immediate access to the original charging documents because based on the Prosecutor’s follow up interview via Don Lemon Tonight show in the video embedded in tweet above- also because the prosecutor actually dropped two names of Sargents -one of whom literally filed an affidavit less than 15 minutes before the press conference…

..the high school looks like a “war zone” and won’t be ready for weeks…

Speaking of which -ICYMI- Tim Throne, Superintendent of Oxford Community Schools, December 2, 2021 Message to Oxford Community

…and listen to me the “war of words” between the Sheriff and Prosecutors is a sideshow. Don’t feed in to it. The point being is James and Jennifer Crumbley will be apprehended. Yes there’s plenty of communication blame to go around —all I’m saying is don’t get sucked into that vortex of deep stupid.

In a previous article I pointed out that the fact the Oakland County Office of Prosecutor charging the parents of the Oxford H.S. Mass shooting is unusual.

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Parents of Oxford HS shooter charged with 4 counts of involuntary manslaughter -charging documents Manhunt underway to locate the parents -update US Marshals Fugitive TaskForce
Updated December 3, 2921 9:40PM This is about a fresh as fresh can get - last month I walked you through some of the statics and scope and reach of the US Marshal Fugitive TaskForce, see September 2021 article See the February 2021 US Marshal Fugitive Apprehension Data/Fact Sheet…
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In a secondary research sweep I decided to run a larger search on James Crumbley -because my initial article I walked you through how to obtain court filings for Duval County Courts ← also I did my best to redact the personal identifiable information(PII) -for example a home address I didn’t redact the home address of the decedent because that’s public record, that it the property records are a matter of public info. Notwithstanding, if you’re going to use my Scribd Account for the Probate Filing, please respect my decision to proactively redact PII

…and oddly enough that answered a previous lingering question -there were several 2021 entries made to James R Crumbley that are sealed and it’s hard to figure out what those cases are about but I don’t think the Probate Case is replicated in the original search I conducted on December 3, 2021

Data on parents being charged…

…after their child goes on a murderous school shooting rampage. Likely that less than 0.00001% of parents charged hence why many of us are saying how rare this is… Because I have access to several tools I can run a wide search aka dragnet. These tools allow me to search for both Federal and/or State prosecution(s) of parents being charged for “gross criminal negligence resulting in a homicide” —my search perimeters:

  • Firearm must have been used in a School Shooting, classified as a “mask shooting”, resulting in both death and severe bodily injury.

  • Active Shooter age range 11 to 19 -I didn’t secularize my search by excluding females in my query.

  • Date range 1999 to present

I then exported that (massive) raw data into a tilt-table, ran additional perimeter of “gun owned by parents” exfiltrated that data and then I got to “blending” the data 1. Then I compared that data U.S. Department of Homeland Security UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE National Threat Assessment Center

Criminal Cases Parent of a School Shooter:

As previously mentioned I ran multiple nationwide searches and I could only locate <6 cases that fit the aforementioned criteria. But the actual number is likely <3 cases:

State of Indiana v Mary York

  • In December of 2018 Dennis Intermediate School shooting —the student turned the gun on himself and died by suicide. The Shooter’s mother was portrayed at a “a mom trying to warn the school” (see New York Time’s October 15, 2019 article..)

  • State of Indiana v. Mary York -Case Number: 89D01-1910-F5-000113

    • 35-47-10-7(1)/F5: Dangerous Control of a Child permit child to possess handgun while aware of risk…

    • 35-46-1-4(a)(1)/F6: Neglect of a Dependent def. places dependent in situation that endangers the dep

    • 0312/13/201835-46-1-4(a)(3)/F6: Neglect of a Dependent def. deprives dependent of necessary support

    • 0412/13/201835-46-1-4(a)(3)/F6: Neglect of a Dependent def. deprives dependent of necessary support

    • 0512/13/201835-46-1-4(a)(3)/F6: Neglect of a Dependent def. deprives dependent of necessary support

    • 0612/13/201835-46-1-4(a)(1)/F6: Neglect of a Dependent def. places dependent in situation that endangers the dep

    • 0712/13/201835-42-2-2(a)/MB:Criminal Recklessness

  • On July 23, 2020 the State of Indian and Defendant Mary York (the shooter’s mother) reached a plea agreement

  • On October 14, 2020 Final Judgement as to Defendant York. sentenced to probation…

There was criminal case in 2014, the father of the Marysville Pilchuck High School shooter was arrested on March 31, 2015 on Federal Gun related charges. On September 29, 2015 a jury found the father, Raymond Lee Fryberg Jr guilty, he was sentenced to two years in prison. But again local prosecutors never charged Raymond Lee Fryberg Jr with “gross criminal negligence resulting in homicide” or any other charges related to the School Shooting. His son used one of the guns his father unlawfully obtained…In a 1,400-page after action report -which detailed the investigation of the Marysville-Pilchuck High School shooting. The shooter apparently brought the handgun in to the school in his backpack. So that’s my very verbose way of explaining criminal charges against parent(s) is likely less than 0.00001% -ergo go I stand behind my previous assertion that James & Jennifer Crumbley’s criminal case could very well be a landmark case.

Also it should be pointed out (I think I did but it was in response to a comment) that the fact a fugitive arrest warrant was issued. Which occurred about an hour after the Oakland County Office of Prosecutor held her press conference. And if the public reporting is accurate -I can guarantee you that the Prosecution will ask the Court to detain both defendants, pending trial and/or plea agreement

  • the $4,000.00 withdrawal

  • the intermittent turning their mobile phones off

  • the back and forth between the Defendant’s attorney

    • Gave the Prosecutor’s office their word that James and Jennifer Crumbley would self surrender in the early morning hours of December 3, 2021. No Show

    • Gave the media numerous conflating statements regarding the last time she spoke to James and/or Jennifer Crumbley

    • The Crumbleys attorney also stated that her clients would self surrender between 2-3PM on December 3, 2021. No Show

Again when I casually type “prior acts yo” ←inside office joke but in all seriousness Judges often take “prior acts” into consideration, particularly if a prosecutor filed a Motion to Detain.

I’m not an anti-gun person. I believe that a vast majority of gun owners, understand the heavy responsibilities that comes with gun ownership. For Example; growing up my father taught us “if you point a gun at someone, understand that you better be okay with taking their life…” → apparently responsible gun ownership that should be a parenting prerequisite.

And if the evidence supports a shooter’s parents behavior, that is; there is sufficient probable cause to believe the parents “gross negligence resulted in homicide” —the prosecutor has a only been on this case for less than a week. Yet today’s press conference was jaw dropping, but in a good way. The parents conduct here was/is egregious. “shocks the conscience" if it is "grossly unjust to the observer.” They literally gave their son a loaded semiautomatic handgun which was used to murder four children and injured seven.

States with Laws: guns to be stored responsibly

According to the Giffords Center; currently only Eleven states and the District of Columbia have laws requiring gun owners engaged in responsible firearm storage. Spoiler: Michigan does not have any “responsible storage” of a firearm, on the books.

 Massachusetts is the only state that generally requires that all firearms be stored with a lock in place; California, Connecticut, and New York impose this requirement in certain situations

  • All firearms are required to be kept disabled with a locking device except when an authorized user is carrying it on his or her person or has the firearm under his or her immediate control (Massachusetts, New York City).

  • Locking devices are required on all firearms manufactured, sold or transferred in the jurisdiction (California).

  • Standards are set for locking devices (California, Connecticut, New York).

  • Locking devices are tested and approved by a certified independent lab before they may be sold in the jurisdiction (California).

  • A roster is maintained of approved locking devices (California, Massachusetts; Maryland maintains a roster of approved locking devices, but only for handguns).

Can a minor legally own a gun in Michigan?

The very short answer is, NO.

See Michigan Legislature - Section 750.235a


750.235a Parent of minor guilty of misdemeanor; conditions; penalty; defense; definitions.

Notwithstanding current Michigan Law prohibits minors (under the age of 18 years old) from possessing any firearms in public, unless:

  • A legal adult, someone who is at 18, is supervising them.

  • Minors are at, going to, or leaving an established shooting range or practice grounds: In the case of traveling to or from shooting practice areas, firearms must be securely fastened in a case or locked in the trunk of a motor vehicle.

  • Minors, with a valid hunting license, are hunting on land where a parent or guardian lives or while accompanied by a parent, guardian, or another legal adult designated by a parent or guardian.

Along with these laws restricting the possession of guns by minors, Michigan also has interrelated statutes, including prohibiting:

  • The sale of a firearm that is more than 26 inches in length to minors

  • The issuance of a handgun purchase license to minors

  • The issuance of a concealed pistol license (CPL) to minors

See April 2021 Firearms Laws -Michigan State

USSS, DHS (CISA) and Dept of Education

Incidentally I also wanted to point out something that might be lost in this discussion, CISA’s SCHOOL SAFETY AND SECURITY webpage is a great resource and I would also recommend you bookmark this December 2020 SIMEX 20-6 After-Action Report School Security

Most attackers used firearms, and firearms were most often acquired from the home: Many of the attackers were able to access firearms from the home of their parents or another close relative. While many of the firearms were unsecured, in several cases the attackers were able to gain access to firearms that were secured in a locked gun safe or case. It should be further noted, however, that some attackers used knives instead of firearms to perpetrate their attacks.

Therefore, a threat assessment should explore if a student has access to any weapons, with a particular focus on weapons access at home. Schools, parents, and law enforcement must work together rapidly to restrict access to weapons in those cases when students pose a risk of harm to themselves or others.


James & Jennifer Crumbley are now in Custody. I would actually expect for the Oakland County Office of Prosecutor will likely file additional charges against the Crumbleys.

🌶🗃 sidebar 🌶🗃: …one of my four primary stalkers tweeted that I had by-pass surgery because I’m “chunky” …”fat as f_ck” —yeah Imma gonna make her prove that I had this magical weight loss surgery. I mean who knew having an Intussusception & small bowel obstruction & partial rupture which required 5 days of various IV antibiotics… was a long term effective weight-loss program. But then again this stalker also lied that she never asked me for a referral to a decent divorce attorney - weird because my text messages and emails (which are in the hands of both federal & state law enforcement) say otherwise.

And enjoy this oldie but goodie flash back of watching dolphins hunting mullets near the inlet - the meta data on that video shows I recorded it in the Fall of 2019… which makes sense because I was recovering from emergency GI surgery and spent most of October 2019 convalescing at our beach home but was prohibited from going in the Ocean, Sound but I could go into our salt water pool. So I took a lot of videos 👇🏻

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Data Sources;

-Everytown for Gun Safety, CHDS' K-12 School Shooting Database, Gun Violence Archive,

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